Foreign Relations & International Law

Chatter: New Cold Wars with Journalist David Sanger

Matt Gluck, David Sanger
Tuesday, April 23, 2024, 9:00 AM
 Is the U.S. in two new Cold Wars with Russia and China?

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David Sanger has been writing for the New York Times since he graduated from college more than four decades ago. Over that period, Sanger has served as a business correspondent in Silicon Valley, the Times bureau chief in Japan, and has covered the last five presidents—which has given Sanger a front-row seat to U.S. foreign policy for much of the post-Cold War period. It is that experience that informs Sanger’s newest book, “New Cold Wars,” in which Sanger argues—relying on a voluminous and colorful set of interviews with administration officials—that the U.S. has entered two new military, technological, and economic conflicts with Russia and China.

Lawfare Research Fellow Matt Gluck spoke about the book with Sanger. They discussed how the United States slipped into these conflicts through misreading Chinese and Russian geopolitical intentions and how the U.S. is seeking to navigate this new era. They also discussed how close Biden administration officials believed Vladimir Putin was to using a nuclear weapon in the fall of 2022.

 

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Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Noam Osband and Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.


Matt Gluck is a research fellow at Lawfare. He holds a BA in government from Dartmouth College.
David Sanger is the chief Washington correspondent for The New York Times, covering foreign policy, globalization, nuclear proliferation, and the presidency.

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