Podcasts
Lawfare hosts a variety of podcasts offering different perspectives on national security. You can find them below or wherever you get your podcasts. Lawfare’s podcasts are produced in cooperation with Goat Rodeo and with editing assistance from Jen Patja Howell.
Latest in Podcasts
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Rational Security: The “Based in Eunuchs” Edition
Quinta and Scott were joined by co-host emeritus Benjamin Wittes to talk over the week’s big national security news -
Chatter: World War I and Intelligence in American Memory, with Mark Stout
The development of modern American intelligence just before and during the war have been largely forgotten by the US public -
The Lawfare Podcast: Preparing for War with Bradley Onishi
How does White Christian nationalism in the United States intersect with the Jan. 6 attack?

The Lawfare Podcast is Lawfare’s marquee daily audio production. Members of the Lawfare team interview policymakers, scholars, journalists, analysts, and each other about anything and everything relating to national security law, policy, and current events. Produced in cooperation with the Brookings Institution.
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The Lawfare Podcast: Preparing for War with Bradley Onishi
How does White Christian nationalism in the United States intersect with the Jan. 6 attack? -
The Lawfare Podcast: Bill Wright on the AI Executive Order
What is included in the Biden administration's executive order on AI? -
The Lawfare Podcast: Two Courts Rule on Presidential Immunity
What are the implications of the two decisions on presidential immunity?

Rational Security is a weekly roundtable podcast co-hosted by Quinta Jurecic, Scott R. Anderson, and Alan Z. Rozenshtein and featuring guests from across the Lawfare family and beyond. Every episode is a lively and irreverent discussion of news, ideas, foreign policy, and law—along with a heavy dose of pop (and not so pop) culture. There’s always terrible segues, lots of laughs, often a muppet, and sometimes even a cocktail or two.
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Rational Security: The “Based in Eunuchs” Edition
Quinta and Scott were joined by co-host emeritus Benjamin Wittes to talk over the week’s big national security news -
Rational Security: The “We’re Moving to Microsoft” Edition
This week, Scott and Quinta sat down with Molly Reynolds and Eugenia Lostri to talk through the week’s big national security news -
Rational Security: The "Talking Turkey" Edition
This week, Quinta and Scott were joined by Lawfare Managing Editor Tyler McBrien to talk over some of the week's big national security news.

Chatter is a weekly long-form conversation podcast hosted by Shane Harris of the Washington Post and David Priess of Lawfare, featuring in-depth discussions with fascinating people at the creative edges of national security. You’ll hear a refreshing mix of authors, national security figures with quirky stories, visual media creatives, technical experts, and new voices exploring areas from Hollywood to history, science to spy fiction.
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Chatter: World War I and Intelligence in American Memory, with Mark Stout
The development of modern American intelligence just before and during the war have been largely forgotten by the US public -
Chatter: Coups and Counterintelligence with Peter Strzok
Peter Strzok talks to Ben Wittes about how he ended up in a career focused on counterintelligence -
Chatter: The JFK Assassination and Conspiracy Culture, with Gerald Posner
Gerald Posner discusses his book that dismantles the conspiracy theories around JFK's assassination.

Lawfare No Bull features primary source audio from the world of national security law and policy—with all of the unnecessary digressions, unintelligible cross-talk, and other nonsense stripped out.

Lawfare Presents: The Aftermath is a narrative podcast series exploring the government’s response to the January 6, 2021 Capitol attack. From prosecutions to congressional hearings to policy reforms, it tells the story of the search for accountability after the insurrection.
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The Aftermath, Episode 6: Going Dark
In the final episode of Season 1, we examine the hidden activity of the Jan. 6 Committee during the year between its first hearing and its second. -
The Aftermath, Season 1: Binge the Whole Thing
Season 1 is now complete. -
Lawfare Live: Discussing Season 1 of The Aftermath
Benjamin Wittes, Natalie Orpett, Katherine Pompilio, and Ian Enright unpack season one of The Aftermath.

#LiveFromUkraine features conversations with Ukrainian voices, hosted by Benjamin Wittes and taped live on Twitter Spaces before a live audience. Each guest is a Ukrainian who provides context or analysis of Ukrainian politics and culture that an English-speaking audience might be missing.
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#LiveFromUkraine: Svitlana Khytrenko: "Russia Delenda Est"
Svitlana Khytrenko (@s_khytrenko) is a Ukrainian student who has lived in Germany and Poland since escaping Kyiv back in March. She sat down with Benjamin Wittes on #LiveFromUkraine to talk about her experienc... -
#LiveFromUkraine: Oleksandra Povoroznik Talks Language Politics and Wartime Culture
Oleksandra Povoroznik is a Kyiv-based journalist, film critic and translator, who joins us to discuss the changing politics of language in Ukraine, as well as the country's defiant wartime culture and humor. -
#LiveFromUkraine: Vitalii Ovcharenko Talks About Fighting for Ukraine in the Field

Lawfare Presents: ALLIES is a narrative podcast series that tells the 20-year story of how the U.S. failed its eyes and ears: Afghan translators, interpreters, and other local partners.
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America’s Allies and the War in Afghanistan
The story of the Special Immigrant Visa program for Afghan translators reflects the U.S. government’s ambivalence toward its allies in Afghanistan. -
Allies: How Did the U.S. Leave So Many of Its Local Allies in Afghanistan?
This week, Lawfare and Goat Rodeo released the final episode of Allies. -
Introducing Allies: A Podcast Series from Lawfare and Goat Rodeo
Today, Lawfare and Goat Rodeo released the first two episodes of Allies, a podcast series that traces the U.S.’s efforts to protect Afghan interpreters, translators and other partners.

On April 18, 2019, the Justice Department released the redacted Mueller Report to the public. The 448-page document details a story that has captured America’s attention. From Russian plots to interfere in our election to constitutional questions of executive power, the Mueller Report is potentially one of the most important and consequential documents of our time. But there’s a problem. Very few people have read it.
The Report tells the story of the Mueller Report through the voices of writers, experts, lawyers, and journalists.
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The Report, Episode Thirteen: Pardons On The Table
Today, we released the thirteenth episode of Lawfare’s narrative audio documentary, The Report, which recounts the story Robert Mueller lays out in his 448-page report. -
The Report, Episode Twelve: It Will Never Get Out
Today, we released the twelfth episode of Lawfare’s narrative audio documentary, The Report, which recounts the story Robert Mueller lays out in his 448-page report. -
The Report, Episode Four: A Tale of Two Trump Towers
The story of the ill-starred effort to build a Trump-branded skyscraper in Moscow and the Trump campaign’s meeting in New York with Russians promising “dirt” on Hillary Clinton.