Lawfare hosts a variety of podcasts offering different perspectives on national security. You can find them below or wherever you get your podcasts. Lawfare’s podcasts are produced in cooperation with Goat Rodeo and with editing assistance from Jen Patja Howell.


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The Lawfare Podcast is Lawfare’s marquee daily audio production. Members of the Lawfare team interview policymakers, scholars, journalists, analysts, and each other about anything and everything relating to national security law, policy, and current events. Produced in cooperation with the Brookings Institution.
Rational Security
Rational Security is a weekly roundtable podcast co-hosted by Quinta Jurecic, Scott R. Anderson, and Alan Z. Rozenshtein and featuring guests from across the Lawfare family and beyond. Every episode is a lively and irreverent discussion of news, ideas, foreign policy, and law—along with a heavy dose of pop (and not so pop) culture. There’s always terrible segues, lots of laughs, often a muppet, and sometimes even a cocktail or two.
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Chatter is a weekly long-form conversation podcast hosted by Shane Harris of the Washington Post and David Priess of Lawfare, featuring in-depth discussions with fascinating people at the creative edges of national security. You’ll hear a refreshing mix of authors, national security figures with quirky stories, visual media creatives, technical experts, and new voices exploring areas from Hollywood to history, science to spy fiction.
Lawfare No Bull
Lawfare No Bull features primary source audio from the world of national security law and policy—with all of the unnecessary digressions, unintelligible cross-talk, and other nonsense stripped out.
The Aftermath
Lawfare Presents: The Aftermath is a narrative podcast series exploring the government’s response to the January 6, 2021 Capitol attack. From prosecutions to congressional hearings to policy reforms, it tells the story of the search for accountability after the insurrection.
#LiveFromUkraine features conversations with Ukrainian voices, hosted by Benjamin Wittes and taped live on Twitter Spaces before a live audience. Each guest is a Ukrainian who provides context or analysis of Ukrainian politics and culture that an English-speaking audience might be missing.
Lawfare Presents: ALLIES is a narrative podcast series that tells the 20-year story of how the U.S. failed its eyes and ears: Afghan translators, interpreters, and other local partners. 
On April 18, 2019, the Justice Department released the redacted Mueller Report to the public. The 448-page document details a story that has captured America’s attention. From Russian plots to interfere in our election to constitutional questions of executive power, the Mueller Report is potentially one of the most important and consequential documents of our time. But there’s a problem. Very few people have read it.
The Report tells the story of the Mueller Report through the voices of writers, experts, lawyers, and journalists.
  • The Report: Impeachment, The Final Day

    Lawfare and Goat Rodeo bring you the final day of President Trump’s impeachment trial and a discussion from the Lawfare’s impeachment experts.
  • The Report: Impeachment, Day 11

    Lawfare and Goat Rodeo bring you the most essential one hour and 32 minutes of the closing arguments in the impeachment trial of President Trump.
  • The Report: Impeachment, Day 10

     Lawfare and Goat Rodeo bring you the arguments for and against calling new witnesses and subpoenaing new evidence in one hour and 12 minutes.