Podcasts
Lawfare hosts a variety of podcasts offering different perspectives on national security. You can find them below or wherever you get your podcasts. Lawfare’s podcasts are produced in cooperation with Goat Rodeo and with editing assistance from Jen Patja Howell.
Latest in Podcasts
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Lawfare No Bull: AG Merrick Garland Testifies in Front of House Judiciary Committee
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The Lawfare Podcast: How States Think
John Mearsheimer and Sebastian Rosato join to discuss their theory of state rationality. -
Rational Security: The “Sara-FIN” Edition
This week, Quinta Jurecic and Scott Anderson were joined by Lawfare colleagues Eric Ciaramella and Saraphin Dhanani to break down the week’s big national security news stories.

The Lawfare Podcast is Lawfare’s marquee daily audio production. Members of the Lawfare team interview policymakers, scholars, journalists, analysts, and each other about anything and everything relating to national security law, policy, and current events. Produced in cooperation with the Brookings Institution.
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The Lawfare Podcast: How States Think
John Mearsheimer and Sebastian Rosato join to discuss their theory of state rationality. -
The Lawfare Podcast: The Tyranny of the Minority with Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt
How did American democracy fall so far behind, and what can be done about it? -
The Lawfare Podcast: A Weaponized World Economy with Henry Farrell and Abe Newman
How has technological innovation impacted economic warfare?

Rational Security is a weekly roundtable podcast co-hosted by Quinta Jurecic, Scott R. Anderson, and Alan Z. Rozenshtein and featuring guests from across the Lawfare family and beyond. Every episode is a lively and irreverent discussion of news, ideas, foreign policy, and law—along with a heavy dose of pop (and not so pop) culture. There’s always terrible segues, lots of laughs, often a muppet, and sometimes even a cocktail or two.
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Rational Security: The “Sara-FIN” Edition
This week, Quinta Jurecic and Scott Anderson were joined by Lawfare colleagues Eric Ciaramella and Saraphin Dhanani to break down the week’s big national security news stories. -
Rational Security: The “We Need to Talk About Kevin ... Again” Edition
This week, with Scott Anderson traveling, Quinta Jurecic and Alan Rozenshtein were joined by Lawfare Senior Editor Molly Reynolds to break down the week’s big national security news stories. -
Rational Security: The "2nd Anniversary Hot Take Takedown" Edition
This week, Alan Rozenshtein, Quinta Jurecic, and Scott Anderson celebrated the second anniversary of Rational Security 2.0 by bringing back everyone's favorite game show edition: the Hot Take Takedown!

Chatter is a weekly long-form conversation podcast hosted by Shane Harris of the Washington Post and David Priess of Lawfare, featuring in-depth discussions with fascinating people at the creative edges of national security. You’ll hear a refreshing mix of authors, national security figures with quirky stories, visual media creatives, technical experts, and new voices exploring areas from Hollywood to history, science to spy fiction.
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Chatter: Secret Intelligence and the British Royal Family with Rory Cormac
How have the British royal family and UK intelligence operations been linked? -
Chatter: Covering Unidentified Aerial Phenomena with Shane Harris
What do we know about unidentified aerial phenomenon? -
Chatter: A Spy in the Manhattan Project with Steve James
Shane Harris spoke with Steve James about his new documentary on the life of Ted Hall, "A Compassionate Spy."

Lawfare No Bull features primary source audio from the world of national security law and policy—with all of the unnecessary digressions, unintelligible cross-talk, and other nonsense stripped out.

Lawfare Presents: The Aftermath is a narrative podcast series exploring the government’s response to the January 6, 2021 Capitol attack. From prosecutions to congressional hearings to policy reforms, it tells the story of the search for accountability after the insurrection.
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The Aftermath, Episode 6: Going Dark
In the final episode of Season 1, we examine the hidden activity of the Jan. 6 Committee during the year between its first hearing and its second. -
The Aftermath, Season 1: Binge the Whole Thing
Season 1 is now complete. -
Lawfare Live: Discussing Season 1 of The Aftermath
Benjamin Wittes, Natalie Orpett, Katherine Pompilio, and Ian Enright unpack season one of The Aftermath.

#LiveFromUkraine features conversations with Ukrainian voices, hosted by Benjamin Wittes and taped live on Twitter Spaces before a live audience. Each guest is a Ukrainian who provides context or analysis of Ukrainian politics and culture that an English-speaking audience might be missing.
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#LiveFromUkraine: Svitlana Khytrenko: "Russia Delenda Est"
Svitlana Khytrenko (@s_khytrenko) is a Ukrainian student who has lived in Germany and Poland since escaping Kyiv back in March. She sat down with Benjamin Wittes on #LiveFromUkraine to talk about her experienc... -
#LiveFromUkraine: Oleksandra Povoroznik Talks Language Politics and Wartime Culture
Oleksandra Povoroznik is a Kyiv-based journalist, film critic and translator, who joins us to discuss the changing politics of language in Ukraine, as well as the country's defiant wartime culture and humor. -
#LiveFromUkraine: Vitalii Ovcharenko Talks About Fighting for Ukraine in the Field

Lawfare Presents: ALLIES is a narrative podcast series that tells the 20-year story of how the U.S. failed its eyes and ears: Afghan translators, interpreters, and other local partners.
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America’s Allies and the War in Afghanistan
The story of the Special Immigrant Visa program for Afghan translators reflects the U.S. government’s ambivalence toward its allies in Afghanistan. -
Allies: How Did the U.S. Leave So Many of Its Local Allies in Afghanistan?
This week, Lawfare and Goat Rodeo released the final episode of Allies. -
Introducing Allies: A Podcast Series from Lawfare and Goat Rodeo
Today, Lawfare and Goat Rodeo released the first two episodes of Allies, a podcast series that traces the U.S.’s efforts to protect Afghan interpreters, translators and other partners.

On April 18, 2019, the Justice Department released the redacted Mueller Report to the public. The 448-page document details a story that has captured America’s attention. From Russian plots to interfere in our election to constitutional questions of executive power, the Mueller Report is potentially one of the most important and consequential documents of our time. But there’s a problem. Very few people have read it.
The Report tells the story of the Mueller Report through the voices of writers, experts, lawyers, and journalists.
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The Report: Impeachment, The Final Day
Lawfare and Goat Rodeo bring you the final day of President Trump’s impeachment trial and a discussion from the Lawfare’s impeachment experts. -
The Report: Impeachment, Day 11
Lawfare and Goat Rodeo bring you the most essential one hour and 32 minutes of the closing arguments in the impeachment trial of President Trump. -
The Report: Impeachment, Day 10
Lawfare and Goat Rodeo bring you the arguments for and against calling new witnesses and subpoenaing new evidence in one hour and 12 minutes.