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Charles Clancy is the CTO of MITRE, an American not-for-profit organization managing federally funded research and development centers (FFRDCs) supporting various US government agencies in defense, healthcare, national security, and cybersecurity fields, among others.

In this interview, we discuss:
• What is MITRE and how does it support national science & technology strategy
• How China threatens America’s infrastructure and university R&D
• The cyber workforce gap and how AI could fill it
• Finding mission-driven work for highly skilled technologists

• How the ecosystem of S&T and R&D funding evolved through the 20th century to today.

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Jordan Schneider is the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter. He previously worked at Kwai, Bridgewater and the Eurasia Group. His Chinese landscape paintings "show promise."

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