Cybersecurity & Tech

ChinaTalk: RAND CEO Jason Matheny Gives a Masterclass on Risk and Organizational Design

Jordan Schneider
Sunday, November 5, 2023, 12:00 PM

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This interview was so good.

Jason Matheny, Biden's former top tech + national security advisor, has recently reached one year as CEO of RAND.

We had a truly classic ChinaTalk-style conversation, hitting on:

How to design a world-class research organization

The right and wrong lessons to learn from RAND's heyday in the 1950s

Existential risks around AI and bio

Government's capacity to grok and implement technology strategy

What national security professionals can learn from art and architecture

And a ton more.

Check out the Hudson Institute's defense research center here.

Some 1950s vibes for our outtro music: Julie LondonDoris Day

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Jordan Schneider is the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter. He previously worked at Kwai, Bridgewater and the Eurasia Group. His Chinese landscape paintings "show promise."

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