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The Lawfare Podcast: Claudia Swain on Cybersecurity and Trains

Jen Patja, Benjamin Wittes, Claudia Swain
Thursday, October 27, 2022, 12:00 PM

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Claudia Swain is Lawfare’s digital strategist—but before coming to Lawfare, she worked at the Federal Railroad Administration, deep in the bureaucracy. She recently wrote an article for Lawfare called, “The Emerging Cyber Threat to the American Rail Industry,” which is a bit of a chilling read about the threat that the American rail industry faces as a result of, of all things, new computerized safety systems.

Benjamin Wittes sat down with Claudia for a fascinating conversation about Positive Train Control, this new computerized system, and the potential cybersecurity threats it poses.


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Jen Patja is the editor of the Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security, and serves as Lawfare’s Director of Audience Engagement. Previously, she was Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics and Deputy Director of the Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier, where she worked to deepen public understanding of constitutional democracy and inspire meaningful civic participation.
Benjamin Wittes is editor in chief of Lawfare and a Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution. He is the author of several books.
Claudia Swain was the digital strategist of Lawfare. She previously worked as a program fellow at #NatSecGirlSquad and as a bureaucrat at the Federal Railroad Administration. She holds a MA in Security Studies from Georgetown University and a BA in Government from The College of William and Mary.
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