The Lawfare Podcast: Cybersecurity and Ukraine at Verify 2022

Jen Patja Howell, Benjamin Wittes, Kori Schake, Megan Stifel, Mieke Eoyang
Tuesday, May 3, 2022, 12:00 PM

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Hosted by the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation Cyber Initiative and Aspen Digital, Verify 2022 brings together journalists and cyber and tech policy experts to discuss critical issues in cybersecurity. For this live recording of the Lawfare Podcast, Benjamin Wittes sat down at Verify 2022 to talk about cybersecurity and Ukraine with a truly remarkable panel: Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute, Megan Stifel of the Institute for Security and Technology, and Mieke Eoyang, currently the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Cyber Policy.

Jen Patja Howell is the editor and producer of The Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security. She currently serves as the Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics, a nonprofit organization that empowers the next generation of leaders in Virginia by promoting constitutional literacy, critical thinking, and civic engagement. She is the former Deputy Director of the Robert H. Smith Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier and has been a freelance editor for over 20 years.
Benjamin Wittes is editor in chief of Lawfare and a Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution. He is the author of several books.
Dr. Kori Schake is the deputy director-general of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
Megan Stifel is a Nonresident Senior Fellow with the Cyber Statecraft Initiative at the Brent Scowcroft Center on International Security and the Founder of Silicon Harbor Consultants, which provides strategic cybersecurity operations and policy counsel. Prior to founding Silicon Harbor Consultants, she was an attorney in the National Security Division at the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ). She most recently served on detail as a Director for International Cyber Policy in the National Security Council at the White House. In this role, Ms. Stifel developed and implemented policies in connection with Internet governance, cybersecurity, and cybercrime. Prior to the White House, Ms. Stifel worked at the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section (CCIPS). At CCIPS she collaborated with law enforcement agencies to investigate and prosecute computer crime cases, including identity theft, network intrusion, and malware distribution. Ms. Stifel also previously served as the Director for Cyber Policy at NSD, where she coordinated the Division’s policy and legal analysis in connection with the 2009 Cyberspace Policy Review (CSPR) and the 2008 Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative, cyber-related legislative proposals, cybersecurity investigations, cyber operations, and the telecommunications supply chain. She was a member of the interagency group that developed the 2011 International Strategy for Cyberspace and the CSPR. Ms. Stifel earned her B.A. in International Studies and German, magna cum laude, from the University of Notre Dame and her J.D. from Indiana University.
Mieke Eoyang is the vice president for the National Security Program at Third Way and a former professional staff member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

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