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The Lawfare Podcast: Karen J. Greenberg on the Intertwined Stories of Saifullah and Uzair Paracha

Jen Patja, Tyler McBrien, Karen J. Greenberg
Thursday, February 16, 2023, 12:00 PM

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Earlier this month, a Pakistani man named Majid Khan started his new life in Belize after spending nearly half his previous life in U.S. detention, first at a CIA black site where he was subjected to torture and other mistreatment, and then at Guantanamo Bay. Lawfare managing editor Tyler McBrien sat down with Karen J. Greenberg, director of the Center on National Security at Fordham University School of Law, and the author of several books, to discuss one of Khan's fellow inmates, Saifullah Paracha, as well as Saifullah’s son Uzair. They discussed Karen's recent Lawfare article on the Parachas, the separate but intertwined systems of justice that the father and son navigated, and Guantanamo Bay's fraught past and uncertain future.


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Jen Patja is the editor and producer of The Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security. She currently serves as the Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics, a nonprofit organization that empowers the next generation of leaders in Virginia by promoting constitutional literacy, critical thinking, and civic engagement. She is the former Deputy Director of the Robert H. Smith Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier and has been a freelance editor for over 20 years.
Tyler McBrien is the managing editor of Lawfare. He previously worked as an editor with the Council on Foreign Relations and a Princeton in Africa Fellow with Equal Education in South Africa, and holds an MA in international relations from the University of Chicago.
Karen J. Greenberg is the Director of the Center on National Security at Fordham Law. She is Editor-in-Chief of the CNS Soufan Group Morning Brief and the Aon Cyber Brief. Her most recent book is Subtle Tools: The Dismantling of American Democracy from the War on Terror to Donald Trump. She is an International Studies Fellow at New America and a Visiting Fellow at the Soufan Center.

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