The Lawfare Podcast: Patrick Radden Keefe on 'Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland'

Jen Patja, Mikhaila Fogel, Patrick Radden Keefe
Saturday, February 15, 2020, 12:00 PM
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In 2013, Patrick Radden Keefe, a staff writer for the New Yorker, came across the obituary of a woman named Dolours Price, a former member of the Irish Republican Army (IRA). Keefe's interest in Price led to sprawling research about an appalling crime that took place over the course of the three-decade Troubles in Northern Ireland: The disappearance of Jean McConville, a widowed young mother of ten children. His research led to his 2019 book, “Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland.”

Mikhaila Fogel sat down with Keefe to discuss his book, the shocking history of McConville’s disappearance, the broader context of the terrorism and counterterrorism campaigns in Northern Ireland over the course of the Troubles, and what happened to the perpetrators and the victims of this crime.


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Jen Patja

Jen Patja

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Jen Patja is the editor of the Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security, and serves as Lawfare’s Director of Audience Engagement. Previously, she was Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics and Deputy Director of the Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier, where she worked to deepen public understanding of constitutional democracy and inspire meaningful civic participation.
Mikhaila Fogel

Mikhaila Fogel

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Mikhaila Fogel was an associate editor at Lawfare and a research analyst at the Brookings Institution. She previously worked as a legislative correspondent for national security and foreign affairs issues in the Office of Sen. Susan Collins. She holds a bachelor’s degree from Harvard College, where she majored in history and literature and minored in government and Arabic.
Patrick Radden Keefe

Patrick Radden Keefe

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Patrick Radden Keefe is a staff writer at The New Yorker magazine and author of the New York Times bestsellers "Empire of Pain" and "Say Nothing," as well as two earlier nonfiction books: "The Snakehead" and "Chatter."
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