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The Lawfare Podcast: Talking IoT Security with Google

Jen Patja, Benjamin Wittes, Tatyana Bolton, Dave Kleidermacher
Wednesday, March 29, 2023, 12:00 PM

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Tatyana Bolton is a Security Policy Manager working on cybersecurity at Google, and Dave Kleidermacher is the Vice President of Android Security & Privacy at Google. They are among the people at Google who are thinking about IoT, that is, Internet of Things security and privacy. They sat down with Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes to talk about Google's thinking on how to create a secure environment for all those little things that we have traveling with us, connected to our computers, running our houses, all connected to the internet, and all using different standards of security. How do we prevent them from being hijacked and turned into botnets? How do we prevent them from spying on us? How do we get them observing similar standards of security, and how do we do this across dozens of different countries, jurisdictions and regulatory environments, and platforms?

Jen Patja is the editor and producer of The Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security. She currently serves as the Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics, a nonprofit organization that empowers the next generation of leaders in Virginia by promoting constitutional literacy, critical thinking, and civic engagement. She is the former Deputy Director of the Robert H. Smith Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier and has been a freelance editor for over 20 years.
Benjamin Wittes is editor in chief of Lawfare and a Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution. He is the author of several books.
Tatyana Bolton is the policy director for R Street’s Cybersecurity and Emerging Threats team. Most recently, Tatyana worked as the senior policy director for the U.S. Cyberspace Solarium Commission focusing on U.S. government reorganization and resilience portfolios. Tatyana previously served in various program management positions at Strategic Systems Programs for the U.S. Navy including budgeting, program management, and contracting. Ms. Bolton is fluent in Russian and earned her MA from Georgetown University’s Walsh School of Foreign Service Security Studies Program, and a BA from the Ohio State University.
Dave Kleidermacher is the Vice President of Engineering for Android Security & Privacy at Google.

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