The National Security Law Podcast: Pearls Are in the Eye of the Beholder

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Thursday, August 12, 2021, 4:48 PM

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It’s been a long summer break for the podcast, but we’re back! Tune in today as Professors Chesney and Vladeck discuss and debate:

  • AUMF reform prospects (2001 AUMF in particular)
  • Ongoing uncertainty as to the fate of the Presidential Policy Guidance regarding the use of lethal force outside areas of active hostilities
  • Litigation exploring whether a unanimous panel should be required in courts-martial
  • A semi-deep dive into Jacobson, the 1905 Supreme Court case that upheld a local mandatory vaccination order (targeting smallpox) in the face of what we would today describe as a substantive due process fundamental rights/liberty claim.
  • How about that CDC rent-moratorium extension?

And, yes, we lament the apparent collapse of the Mets, while also recommending some good books and podcasts!

Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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