The National Security Law Podcast: This Podcast Has All the Elsas (but No Eminem)

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 4:14 PM

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And we’re back, with a fresh episode at last. Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate the latest national security law developments. This week they cover:

  • Donald Trump pressuring Main DOJ to override the sentencing recommendation made by line prosecutors in order to help Roger Stone
  • Donald Trump pressuring DOD to retaliate against Lt. Col. Vindman (followed by, coincidentally, our discussion of the Military Whistleblower Protection Act)
  • A quick overview of federal quarantine law, just in case…
  • The case of Omar Ameen and legal issues associated with non-refoulement
  • The War Powers bill in the Senate: what would it actually mean to “withdraw” from hostilities with Iran, while still being in Iraq and Syria to fight the Islamic State?
  • Steve gets all the colors! (You have to listen to find out what that means)

We end, as always, with frivolity. Oscar awards recap time!

Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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