That National Security Law Podcast: This Podcast Prefers Its Nothing Burgers to Be Medium Rare

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Wednesday, May 6, 2020, 10:33 AM

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What a fun episode! Co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck recorded “live” before the Austin Bar Association, as the finale of their day-long Zoom conference. On tap:

  1. The ODNI report on FISA statistics: We have a detailed discussion of the highlights, focusing on whether there is cause for alarm in the renews that FBI in some instances failed to get a warrant (as required by statute) before accessing the content of U.S. person communications incidentally collected via 702.
  2. Pandemia: What’s the real story with the latest Defense Production Act order, the one directed at the meat-processing industry?
  3. Flynn-sanity: Will Mike Flynn be pardoned, and if not will recent developments involving the FBI’s activities impact his sentence?
  4. Will the Supreme Court pave the way for judicial enforcement of Congressional subpoenas of Trump business records, or will it instead foreclose that possibility (and much more than that)?
  5. Hey, look, another judge for the 9/11 case at GTMO!

All that, plus a review of WestWorld episode 7.

Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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