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The Lawfare Podcast: What Disqualifying Trump From the 2024 Ballot Would Mean for Election Law

Alan Z. Rozenshtein, Nick Bednar, Ned Foley, Derek Muller, Andrea Katz, Jen Patja
Friday, November 24, 2023, 8:00 AM
The University of Minnesota Law School held a conference on the implications of Section 3 disqualification. This is one of the panels.
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In the past few weeks, there have been several notable developments in lawsuits seeking to disqualify Donald Trump from the 2024 election under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. The Minnesota Supreme Court dismissed a case against Trump but invited the petitioners to refile once Trump won the GOP nomination. A court in Michigan rejected a challenge to Trump's eligibility on the grounds that Congress, not the courts, should ultimately decide. And, most recently, a Colorado trial court held that, although Trump did engage in insurrection before and during Jan. 6, Section 3 does not apply to presidents.

As these and other cases make their way through the courts, and with the potential that the Supreme Court will at some point weight in, we're bringing you another portion of a conference held last month at the University of Minnesota Law School (for a previous excerpt, see the November 1 edition of the Lawfare Podcast). This panel, focusing on the interplay between the Section 3 challenges and election law, was moderated by University of Minnesota Law School Professor Nick Bednar, and featured Professor Ned Foley of the Ohio State College of Law, Professor Derek Muller of Notre Dame Law School, and Professor Andrea Katz of Washington University School of Law.

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Alan Z. Rozenshtein

Alan Z. Rozenshtein

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Alan Z. Rozenshtein is an Associate Professor of Law at the University of Minnesota Law School, a senior editor at Lawfare, and a term member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Previously, he served as an Attorney Advisor with the Office of Law and Policy in the National Security Division of the U.S. Department of Justice and a Special Assistant United States Attorney in the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Maryland.

Nick Bednar

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Nick Bednar is an Associate Professor of Law at the University of Minnesota.
Ned Foley

Ned Foley

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Ned Foley holds Ohio State University’s Ebersold Chair in Constitutional Law and directs its election law program. He currently is a Guggenheim Fellow and Visiting Professor at University of Arizona’s law school. He is the author of Ballot Battles: The History of Disputed Elections in the United States (Oxford University Press, revised edition 2024), and Presidential Elections and Majority Rule (Oxford University Press, 2020). He writes about improving electoral procedures at Common Ground Democracy.
Derek Muller

Derek Muller

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Derek Muller is a professor at the University of Iowa College of Law.
Andrea Katz

Andrea Katz

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Andrea Katz is an Associate Professor of Law at Washington University School of Law in St. Louis.
Jen Patja

Jen Patja

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Jen Patja is the editor and producer of The Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security. She currently serves as the Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics, a nonprofit organization that empowers the next generation of leaders in Virginia by promoting constitutional literacy, critical thinking, and civic engagement. She is the former Deputy Director of the Robert H. Smith Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier and has been a freelance editor for over 20 years.

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