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ChinaTalk: Anthropic's Dario Amodei on AI Competition

Jordan Schneider
Wednesday, February 5, 2025, 12:00 AM
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Dario Amodei is the CEO of Anthropic. In today’s interview, we discuss…

  • Whether an AI innovation race is inevitable between the US and China,
  • How the US should update export controls in light of DeepSeek’s R1 release,
  • DeepSeek’s willingness to generate information about bioweapons,
  • Technical defenses against model distillation and AI espionage,
  • How advanced AI could eventually impact democracy,
  • Whether there is tension between export controls and the belief that AI will broadly increase human flourishing.

Dario's blogposts:

  • Machines of Loving Grace: https://darioamodei.com/machines-of-loving-grace
  • On DeepSeek and Export Controls: https://darioamodei.com/on-deepseek-and-export-controls

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Jordan Schneider is the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter. He previously worked at Kwai, Bridgewater and the Eurasia Group. His Chinese landscape paintings "show promise."
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