Cybersecurity & Tech

ChinaTalk: Dylan, Doug, Jon on AI Mandate of Heaven + Ezra Beef

Jordan Schneider
Wednesday, June 4, 2025, 5:00 PM

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Two weeks in a row what has gotten into us.

  • Jordan tries to save the NSF and immigrant visas with an AI researcher letter
  • Our quarterly AI mandate of heaven update (there's been alot of movement!)
  • Dylan makes bad slop jokes
  • The Ezra Klein/Dylan Patel beef begins
  • We recommend the amazing book Mitsui: Three Centuries of Japanese Business

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Jordan Schneider is the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter. He previously worked at Kwai, Bridgewater and the Eurasia Group. His Chinese landscape paintings "show promise."
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