Cybersecurity & Tech Foreign Relations & International Law

ChinaTalk: AI: Open vs Closed + NeurIPS Reflections

Jordan Schneider
Wednesday, January 24, 2024, 2:38 PM

Published by The Lawfare Institute
in Cooperation With

Should AI be more open or closed? What does it mean to be open, anyway? And can France overtake China in AI??

Today I'm running a crossover episode with the Retort AI, hosted by AI Ethicist Tom Gilbert and Nathan Lambert who writes the fantastic newsletter covering technological advancements in machine learning.

Click here to listen to ChinaTalk in your favorite podcast app

Outro Music: Bela Fleck et al, Bahar
Cover photo is a Midjourney a riff off of this very cool Derian portrait showing in the MET till Jan 21
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Jordan Schneider is the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter. He previously worked at Kwai, Bridgewater and the Eurasia Group. His Chinese landscape paintings "show promise."

Subscribe to Lawfare