Foreign Relations & International Law

ChinaTalk: Labs over Fabs: Why the US and EU Should Invest in the Future of Semiconductors

Jordan Schneider
Monday, July 19, 2021, 9:01 AM

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Chris Miller of Tufts and I discuss our report Labs over Fabs, our case for the US to be spending money more broadly than currently conceived by the CHIPS act. (

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JP Kleinhans (@JPKleinhans) joins to cohost and discuss his April 2021 report that argues it's dumb for Europe to drop billions on some shiny new fabs.

The BIS filings we were talking about:

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Jordan Schneider is the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter. He previously worked at Kwai, Bridgewater and the Eurasia Group. His Chinese landscape paintings "show promise."

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