The Cyberlaw Podcast: Defending Against Deep Fakes with Lifelogs, Watermarks … and Tatts?

Stewart Baker
Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 3:11 PM

In our 227th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Bobby Chesney (@BobbyChesney), who recently co-authored a paper with Danielle Citron (@DanielleCitron) titled, “Deep Fakes: A Looming Challenge for Privacy, Democracy, and National Security.” Stewart and Bobby are joined by Maury Shenk,

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In our 227th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Bobby Chesney (@BobbyChesney), who recently co-authored a paper with Danielle Citron (@DanielleCitron) titled, “Deep Fakes: A Looming Challenge for Privacy, Democracy, and National Security.” Stewart and Bobby are joined by Maury Shenk, Nick Weaver (@ncweaver), and Patt Cannaday to discuss:

  • Is the European Union’s $5 billion fine on Google a bad idea grounded in anti-Americanism? President Trump seems to think so;
  • The Justice Department cyber report sets sensible new standards for avoiding partisanship while naming foreign states trying to influence U.S. opinion—but if the department gives Big Tech special access to intelligence, will Big Tech use the intel in a nonpartisan way?
  • Recent speculative execution attacks on Intel and ARM processors (Spectre et. al.);
  • Overdoing it wrong? Senate doesn’t just cave on ZTE penalties for violating export control law—it also caves on U.S. supply-chain worries;
  • The FISA document dump on Carter Page—sure, it undercuts Devin Nunes, but what are the ramifications for FISA applications that rely heavily on news media articles?
  • All 50 states have taken federal funds to improve election cybersecurity—now it’s up to them to deliver a secure election in November;
  • EU and Japan agree on mutual adequacy findings allowing personal data transfers—but will the findings meet the European Court of Justice’s absurdly solipsistic requirements?

You can also find Bobby Chesney on the National Security Law Podcast (@NSLpodcast), which he co-hosts with Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck). If you want to learn more about deep fakes, check out the Heritage Foundation’s recent discussion in which Bobby participated.

Download the 227th Episode (mp3).

As always, The Cyberlaw Podcast is open to feedback. Send your questions, comments, and suggestions for topics or interviewees to CyberlawPodcast@steptoe.com or leave a message at +1 202 862 5785. Remember: If your suggested interviewee appears on the show, we will send you a highly coveted Cyberlaw Podcast mug!

The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

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Stewart A. Baker has a law and consulting practice in Washington. His government service include three and a half years at the Department of Homeland Security as its first Assistant Secretary for Policy as well as a tours of duty as General Counsel of the National Security Agency and as General Counsel of the commission that investigated US intelligence failures in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.
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