Information about the recent protests in Iran and the regime's brutal crackdown are only starting to come to light, having been severely limited by the internet shutdown over the past few weeks. The picture that is emerging is horrifying: Thousands and possibly tens of thousands have been killed by regime security forces. In this episode, Lawfare Public Service Fellow Ariane Tabatabai talks to Nate Swanson and Iria Puyosa of the Atlantic Council to make sense of what has been going on in Iran and the U.S. response.

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Dr. Ariane Tabatabai is a Public Service Fellow at Lawfare. Previously, she served in a number of roles in the U.S. Departments of State and Defense, including most recently as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Force Education and Training. She is the author of No Conquest, No Defeat and the co-author of Triple Axis, as well as a number of peer-reviewed articles.
Nate Swanson is a resident senior fellow and director of the Iran Strategy Project with the Scowcroft Middle East Security Initiative.
Iria Puyosa is a senior research fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Democracy+Tech Initiative.
Jen Patja is the editor of the Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security, and serves as Lawfare’s Director of Audience Engagement. Previously, she was Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics and Deputy Director of the Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier, where she worked to deepen public understanding of constitutional democracy and inspire meaningful civic participation.
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