The Lawfare Podcast: Allies

Jen Patja, Bryce Klehm, Max Johnston, Benjamin Wittes
Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 12:00 PM
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Bryce Klehm is an associate editor at Lawfare. Max Johnston is a creative producer at Goat Rodeo. Together, they are the creators of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo’s newest podcast series, Allies, which launched on Monday and covers the history of the Special Immigrant Visa Program in Afghanistan. It's an amazing story. It covers a lot of time, a lot of action and a lot of people, all through the lens of the efforts—legislative and administrative—to get visas for Afghan translators to come to the United States to protect them from Taliban retaliation. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Bryce and Max to talk about the creation of the podcast, and how you take a wonky visa program and turn it into drama. Following the conversation, we’re bringing you the entirety of Episode One of Allies.

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Jen Patja

Jen Patja

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Jen Patja is the editor of the Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security, and serves as Lawfare’s Director of Audience Engagement. Previously, she was Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics and Deputy Director of the Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier, where she worked to deepen public understanding of constitutional democracy and inspire meaningful civic participation.
Bryce Klehm

Bryce Klehm

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Bryce Klehm is a third year law student at the University of Pennsylvania Law School. He is a former associate editor at Lawfare. He is the editor in chief of the University of Pennsylvania Law Review.
Max Johnston

Max Johnston

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Max Johnston is a Senior Creative Producer at Goat Rodeo in Washington, DC. He specializes in sound-rich narrative storytelling on dense topics through a career in public radio and podcasting.
Benjamin Wittes

Benjamin Wittes

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Benjamin Wittes is editor in chief of Lawfare and a Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution. He is the author of several books.
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