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Chatter: The Legacy of “The Hunt for Red October” with Katherine Voyles

Shane Harris, Katherine Voyles
Tuesday, December 17, 2024, 8:00 AM
What has been "The Hunt for Red October's" cultural influence?

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Shane Harris makes no secret about his love for the film version of this Cold War submarine thriller, based on the Tom Clancy novel. It’s his favorite movie. So he was delighted to welcome fellow obsessive Katherine Voyles to the podcast. A PhD in English, Voyles writes about national security in culture, as well as the culture of national security. She and Shane talked about why they love the movie, their favorite scenes and characters, and how the story influenced--maybe even created--an entire genre of fiction. They also discussed why it is, actually, a Christmas movie, and their mutual admiration for the martini. 

Voyles’s writing has appeared in in the Los Angeles Review of BooksForeign Policy, Task PurposeSmall Wars Journal, and War on the Rocks. She also works for the Department of Defense 

In addition to the greatest movie of all time, essays, TV shows, books, and restaurants discussed in this episode include: 

Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.


Shane Harris is a staff writer at The Atlantic covering national security and intelligence. He can be reached on Signal at shaneharris.64. He has written about intelligence, security, and foreign policy for more than two decades, including as a staff writer for The Washington Post, where he was part of the team that won the 2022 Pulitzer Prize for Public Service. In 2023, he co-reported the documentary The Discord Leaks with PBS Frontline, which was nominated for an Emmy for outstanding investigative news coverage. He is the author of two books, The Watchers and @War.
Katherine Voyles holds a PhD in English and works for the Department of Defense at the U.S. Army Institute for Religious Leadership.
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