The Chatter Podcast: Reporting from the Front Lines with Nancy Youssef

David Priess, Shane Harris, Nancy Youssef
Thursday, April 13, 2023, 12:00 PM

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Nancy Youssef has reported on war and conflict around the world and from Washington. As a young journalist, she went to Iraq and sensed early on that a war most presumed would be over quickly was only just beginning. Her career has taken her to Afghanistan, Egypt, and into the center of power at the Pentagon. Nancy is now a national security correspondent for The Wall Street Journal.

In her conversation with Shane Harris, Nancy talks about her Journal colleague, Evan Gershkovich, who was arrested last month in Russia and accused of spying—charges that his family, his employer, and the U.S. government, vociferously deny. Like Nancy, Evan is the child of immigrants. She says she admired his reporting for giving voice to the Russian people at a time of war. Nancy has seen other colleagues taken prisoner amid conflict and shared her thoughts about the risks that journalists face both in war zones and from states that see information as a weapon.  

Shane and Nancy are old friends and worked together at The Daily Beast, where they covered U.S. national security and foreign policy. 

Nancy’s work at The Wall Street Journal

Nancy on Twitter

A recent profile on Evan Gershkovich from The Washington Post

More on Austin Tice, a friend of Nancy’s who went missing in Syria

Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Schillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.

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David Priess is Director of Intelligence at Bedrock Learning, Inc. and a Senior Fellow at the Michael V. Hayden Center for Intelligence, Policy, and International Security. He served during the Clinton and Bush 43 administrations as a CIA officer and has written two books: “The President’s Book of Secrets,” about the top-secret President’s Daily Brief, and "How To Get Rid of a President," describing the ways American presidents have left office.
Shane Harris has written about intelligence, security and foreign policy for more than two decades. He is a staff writer with The Washington Post, covering U.S. intelligence agencies and national security. He was part of the team that won the 2021 Pulitzer Prize for Public Service, for stories about the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and efforts to overturn the presidential election. In 2019, he was part of the team that was a finalist for the Public Service award for coverage of the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Shane has previously been a staff writer for the Wall Street Journal, the Daily Beast, and National Journal. He is the author of two books, "The Watchers: The Rise of America's Surveillance State" (Penguin Press, 2010) and "@War: The Rise of the Military-Internet Complex" (Eamon Dolan/Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2014). He frequently appears on national and international television and radio. He is also a co-host of the weekly podcast "Chatter." Shane graduated from Wake Forest University in 1998. He lives in Washington.
Nancy Youssef is a national security correspondent for The Wall Street Journal and formerly a correspondent for the Daily Beast, Buzzfeed News, and McClatchy Newspapers.

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