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Lawfare Daily: America's Defense Industrial Base

Daniel Byman, Seth G. Jones, Jen Patja
Tuesday, December 2, 2025, 8:01 AM
How do the U.S and Chinese industrial bases compare?

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For today's episode, Lawfare Foreign Policy Editor Daniel Byman sits down with Seth Jones, the President of the Defense and Security Department at the Center for Strategic & International Studies to discuss Seth's new book about the U.S and Chinese industrial bases, "The American Edge: The Military Tech Nexus and the Sources of Great Power Dominance."

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Daniel Byman is a professor at Georgetown University, Lawfare's Foreign Policy Essay editor, and a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic & International Studies.
Seth G. Jones is senior vice president and director of the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. He is the author, most recently, of “Three Dangerous Men: Russia, China, Iran, and the Rise of Irregular Warfare” (W.W. Norton, 2021).
Jen Patja is the editor of the Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security, and serves as Lawfare’s Director of Audience Engagement. Previously, she was Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics and Deputy Director of the Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier, where she worked to deepen public understanding of constitutional democracy and inspire meaningful civic participation.
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