The Lawfare Podcast: China’s Perfect Police State in Xinjiang

Jen Patja, Bryce Klehm, Geoffrey Cain
Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 12:00 PM

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Bryce Klehm spoke with Geoffrey Cain, an investigative journalist and the author of the new book, “The Perfect Police State: An Undercover Odyssey into China's Terrifying Surveillance Dystopia of the Future.” They had a wide-ranging discussion about the Chinese government's use of surveillance technology to suppress its Uyghur population, the history of Xinjiang since 9/11, the development of China's tech industry and much more.



Jen Patja is the editor of the Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security, and serves as Lawfare’s Director of Audience Engagement. Previously, she was Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics and Deputy Director of the Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier, where she worked to deepen public understanding of constitutional democracy and inspire meaningful civic participation.
Bryce Klehm is a third year law student at the University of Pennsylvania Law School. He is a former associate editor at Lawfare. He is the editor in chief of the University of Pennsylvania Law Review.
Geoffrey Cain is an investigative journalist and the author of “The Perfect Police State: An Undercover Odyssey into China's Terrifying Surveillance Dystopia of the Future.”
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